I'm going to help you out on some of your misguided quotes of my Blessed
Bible. First off on the Song of Solomon Chapter 5:16, it states nothing about
Muhammad's name it is virtually about the Bride of Christ meaning of course
his beleivers.When he called Jesus the prophet it related to his being
brought to this world as a flesh man, therefore explaining the like
attractions of Moses and Jesus such as: man born of woman, you see Jesus did
come out the same as Moses, he was born of a woman from a woman's womb, he
didn't just fall from the sky, yes he was conceived by the Holy Spirit but he
was born as all children would be born, through his mother's womb, also there
was a time in Moses life where his people rejected him, manly when he was
being raised by the Egyptians and therefore they hated him for he was a Jew
who was Lord over them until the time that God opened his heart and he then
learned the truth, whether he knew or not or even if they did not know that
he was a Jew at the time, doesn't matter. What is important is that he was
rejected by his people, just as Jesus was, also Moses did signs and wonders
just as Jesus did, Moses led the people out of captivity just as Jesus led us
by way of the cross out of sin and damnation into the promised land, i.e.,
Everlasting Life, (Heaven). I could go o and on but I won't because if you
are truly seeking the truth and the way, and if you truly believe Jesus was
anointed by God then How can you even suggest that Muhammad is God, You
yourself said that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary thus Jesus was born,(Read
Matthew Chapter 1i the King James Bible. it tells of the birth of Jesus
called Christ and gives you his lineage). Then who else could he be but God
in flesh form his son Jesus. One more thing, Muhammad died correct. Jesus
died and was resurrected. I rest my case.
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Apologies for the late reply, as my the email service at my ISP went haywire.
In regards to your email, I've answered below the material you've presented.
>I'm going to help you out on some of your misguided quotes of my Blessed
>Bible. First off on the Song of Solomon Chapter 5:16, it states nothing about
>Muhammad's name it is virtually about the Bride of Christ meaning of course
>his beleivers.
Theological interpretation (as you use) usually leaves an avenue for innumerable interpretations. If you look up the classical Hebrew, the verse of Solomon 5:16 reads
Hikko Mamittadim Vikulo Mahamadimm,
Zehdudi Vezem Raai Benute Yapus Halam
"im" is a plural of respect used in Hebrew, like you use capital letters for names in English. But more so, "im" when lopped off (like for Elohim) becames clear in regards to the Prophet of Islam. Read a few verses earliar in which Solomon (PBUH) is giving a physical description of the Prophet. It not only records the feeatures of the Prophet as Islamic sources has it, but it also cancels out your theory of the Bride of Christ. As Solomon is giving a profile of a singular human being (please read the entire chapter), and always refers to that person with a masculine pronoun. In verse 10, he is described as the chief of ten thousand. The same verse in
Deuteronomy 33:2. You can read an explanation of this verse in which I reply to a persons question in regards to the ten thousand
notion in Deaut 33:2
http://www.benet.net.au/~tahseen/Letters/deut33.html
>When he called Jesus the prophet it related to his being
>brought to this world as a flesh man, therefore explaining the like
>attractions of Moses and Jesus such as: man born of woman, you see Jesus did
>come out the same as Moses, he was born of a woman from a woman's womb, he
>didn't just fall from the sky, yes he was conceived by the Holy Spirit but he
>was born as all children would be born, through his mother's womb, also there
>was a time in Moses life where his people rejected him, manly when he was
>being raised by the Egyptians and therefore they hated him for he was a Jew
>who was Lord over them until the time that God opened his heart and he then
>learned the truth, whether he knew or not or even if they did not know that
>he was a Jew at the time, doesn't matter. What is important is that he was
>rejected by his people, just as Jesus was, also Moses did signs and wonders
>just as Jesus did, Moses led the people out of captivity just as Jesus led us
>by way of the cross out of sin and damnation into the promised land, i.e.,
>Everlasting Life, (Heaven).
In this argument of yours, you try to compare Historical elements with theological elements.
Moses leading his people out of captivity is a historical event, but the notion of Jesus leading people out of
sin and damnation is a theological interpretation. And it will also differ with every Church's doctrine.
You would not buy the argument if I stated that Hitler conquered nations and Muhammad Ali (the boxer) conquered opponents in the ring, hence they both are they same. This does not square with logic, metaphorically it might, realistically it doesn't whatsoever. If you want to make comparisons with Jesus and Moses, make sure you use a similar platform, and not jump from one to another, and then think you've convinced yourself you've proved the point.
You are obviously referring to Sheikh Ahmed Deedats book "What the Bible says about Muhammed (PBUH)". In regards to the conception of Jesus and Moses being the same, the Prophet Muhammed was so in like manner. Thus it does not prove any difference between any of the three. What the book stated was that Moses and Muhammed were born via the natural association of human parents, Jesus was born of a virgin birth. That's what makes Jesus dissimilar in this respect.
Moses was never a Jew, as he was not a descendent of Judah, he was from the pedigree of Levi. But for the arguments sake, lets say he was a Jew, the prophecy of
Deuteronomy 18:18 could then apply to the other Prophets like Solomon, David, John the Baptist etc because they were Jews also.
On the point of Moses and Jesus being rejected by their people, you are forgetting a fundamental factor. And that Moses was rejected, but then
accepted by his own people within his very own lifetime. This also applies to Prophet Muhammed, he was rejected but then accepted by the Arabs before he passed away. On the other hand, Jesus was never accepted in his own lifetime, and till this day, his own people (the Jews) still reject him. This is where the striking similarity between Moses and Muhammed is illuminated, and Jesus is ruled out.
On the point of miracles, it is another stumbling block as the prophecy could apply to David, Solomon or Elisha.
My friend what you have to do is look at the big picture also, which two of the three figures, had a parallel life (spiritual, as well as political). Even Christian Scholars (unknowingly of the Deaut. 18:18 prophecy) draw this similarity, see
http://www.benet.net.au/~tahseen/MuhInBible/WHATTHBIBLESAYSBOUTMUHAMAD.html for quotes from Christian sources about this similitude between Moses and Muhammed.
Christians are faced with a bigger problem, and that is in the Gospel of John, chapter one, when the Jews come to John the Baptist to ask of who he is. He is asked three questions
1. Are you the Christ
2. Are you Elisha
3. Are you that Prophet.
There are three distinct questions asked here, in which John the Baptist answers No to all three. This reveals that the Jews had the expectation of three prophecies according to their scriptures. If you look at any Bible cross-reference, you'll see that the third question posed is in
referring to Deaut. 18:18. In this manner, Jesus is either the Christ (Messiah) or he is the Prophet like Moses. He can't be both, as according to the Jews they are two distinct entities. And the Jews did not know Jesus by then to develop any prejudice against him. Thus Jesus must be one or the other. Please
don't twist them to fool yourself that there is only two questions posed, it's bad enough Christendom does this with the Trinity (in which three somehow becomes one), use your God-given faculty to distinguish between numbers and face the reality that even in the New Testament era, the Prophet like Moses had not yet come. That is according to the Bible once again.
>I could go on and on but I won't because if you
>are truly seeking the truth and the way, and if you truly believe Jesus was
>anointed by God then How can you even suggest that Muhammad is God, You
>yourself said that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary thus Jesus was born,
(Read
>Matthew Chapter 1i the King James Bible. it tells of the birth of Jesus
>called Christ and gives you his lineage). Then who else could he be but God
>in flesh form his son Jesus. One more thing, Muhammad died correct. Jesus
>died and was resurrected. I rest my case.
>
This is were your ignorance of Islam is blatantly revealed. Where on my site, in any book, article or essay do you encounter the mention of Muhammed being God?. Just point out to me where I ascribe divinity to the Prophet of Islam. If you show me, then I promise you I'll take my whole website down. Also show me one credible Islamic website in which Muhammed is said to be God?. In Islam we do not believe
Muhammed to be God, neither do we believe Jesus to be God. NO HUMAN BEING CAN BE GOD, the Bible even says so. I recommend you read the book "Christ in Islam"
http://www.benet.net.au/~tahseen/ChristInIslam/christintro.html if you are a sincere seeker of truth.
The argument is becoming flawed, if Jesus was created without a father, does that make him God?. Adam was created without a Father nor mother, does that make him a greater God?. Does God almighty have a lineage?, does he have a pedigree, ancestors, and relatives?. These are questions you should reflect on. The
resurrection is not an Islamic belief, as we do not believe Jesus died or was crucified in the first place. Even the
Resurrection alone does not prove much. I suggest you read the various books at my site, and your mind will be opened to a newer perspective that you had not grasped previously.
Regards
Malik Ali